Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Getting back to the engine, it was running, but the clutch didn't disengage!
I bought a NOS clutch set somewhere in NL, which wasn't specifically for this car. It did fit perfectly on the engine though, but I was just a bit too naive thinking it would do the job.
So this time I chose to take out the gearbox from underneath to understand what was happening. Indeed, the pressure plate was not thick enough. Luckily my buddy had a longer throw out bearing collar laying around from his Z. (I deeply understand the idea of part hoarding now)
After assembling everything, we did a quick test and the pedal felt great again!
I haven't been able to drive it yet, but I'm thinking this should be happening within weeks (as I only work on it on Sunday's).
I bought a NOS clutch set somewhere in NL, which wasn't specifically for this car. It did fit perfectly on the engine though, but I was just a bit too naive thinking it would do the job.
So this time I chose to take out the gearbox from underneath to understand what was happening. Indeed, the pressure plate was not thick enough. Luckily my buddy had a longer throw out bearing collar laying around from his Z. (I deeply understand the idea of part hoarding now)
After assembling everything, we did a quick test and the pedal felt great again!
I haven't been able to drive it yet, but I'm thinking this should be happening within weeks (as I only work on it on Sunday's).
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Thanks man!
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Between the drive train work, I've been trying to get the left rocker straight and ready for paint. It was nice to learn a bit how to work with filler. And as I was going to paint it, I decided to paint the part above the drip rail molding as well. It was quite rusty.
I started with wrong paint (my problem is I'm a bit color blind and the paint shop gave me the wrong rattle cans) but I ordered the right colour quickly after realising this. It turned out pretty okay to be fair.
sanding and shaping
rusty stuff
wrong colour
not too shabby
This was another small box to be checked.
I've put a deadline on getting the car running before the 3rd of July. There was a big Japanese Classic car meet around 1,5 hours away. This added a bit on the stress levels, but also got things going.
The next big thing to tackle were the headlights. The wiring was a big mess due to the old relay dying and somewhere in the last 50 years it was not very professionally "fixed", killing the color coding. And the color coding for a 1969 appeared to be a bit different to other years anyway (I think).
I've worked a couple of late hours with a buddy of mine to re-wire everything with 3 relays and the power coming straight from the battery. But all was solved after finding out that number 87 on a relay is very different from 87a.
I was very happy with the result.
I can see!
This all was finished last Thursday the 30th of June.
All that was next was a test drive Friday evening.
That didn't go well, the engine wouldn't start. I tried to wait a bit to get the electronic choke to open a bit and even then it wouldn't idle on its own. Very frustrating. So I want to bed with a heavy heart.
The next day I remembered some words from a Dutch guy living in California owning a (or more) 510 explaining me that an electrical choke is pretty much crap with a cold engine. So I decided to give it another try with a different mindset. More throttle with a cold engine and trying to get the engine warm with driving around a bit. It worked!
Although I was hearing some nasty clunks while driving, but that was caused by me not torqueing down the 14" Work wheels
I've loaded up some essential tools and did a second very succesful test drive towards my appartment. Yeehaw!
ready for second test drive
Sunday morning the 3rd of July.
I was picking up my buddy in the morning, but did spot some cooling leakage on the floor. The water pump gasket died, but I already invested €70 in fuel, so I just went to the next gas station to buy some cooling fluid for the road. And as I have never put so much gasoline in the tank, it overflowed a bit (have to check where that leakage comes from) and the vapors where filling up in the cabin. Luckily the windows worked.
I could finally test the L18 a bit on the road and what a difference it is. It's so easy to participate properly with the common traffic in the city and on the highway. Driving 100km/h (60mph) and putting my foot on the pedal gave an extra pull which was a fantastic sensation. I do have to say that a 5-speed would be more comfortable, albeit that the 1,5 hour drive was mostly with a smile on my face.
The cooling fluid leak was under control as well.
Arriving at the event, my 510 brother Doraemon already reserved a place for me somewhere in the back of the field with two chairs and cold non-alcoholic beers, what a welcome!
finally the two cars together
It was already very busy upon arrival, but more and more classic Japanese cars where coming in. Eventually 776 cars came!
I have to say, after seeing the 15th Fairlady the 14th Sunny and the Silvia's, MR2's, Celica's, more and more I really loved seeing my car there. There are just not that many 510's in the Netherlands. The "other" 510 I know which is seen at other events was there as well and it was nice talking to the guy. It's a 1400 and he has it since 1991, didn't do anything on it and the car really looks like new. Too bad I didn't make a picture of it, but I'm sure I'll see him again.
Doraemon (Glenn), my buddy and I enjoyed the cars, the stories, and a good lunch at the restaurant next to the event. I was hyped talking to all the people who showed interest in our cars and also a bit surprised that some of them loved the rust on the car, making it "authentic". I guess it's a rusty hole fetish.
Near the end we just wanted a good picture together so here it is:
The drive back was a bit exciting, all of a sudden the engine was stuttering.
Apparently the bolts of the rocker cover were loosened on the way to the event. It was a quick fix at the nearest gas station.
So happy I managed to make it to (and back from) the event.
What a fantastic experience.
he made it
I started with wrong paint (my problem is I'm a bit color blind and the paint shop gave me the wrong rattle cans) but I ordered the right colour quickly after realising this. It turned out pretty okay to be fair.
sanding and shaping
rusty stuff
wrong colour
not too shabby
This was another small box to be checked.
I've put a deadline on getting the car running before the 3rd of July. There was a big Japanese Classic car meet around 1,5 hours away. This added a bit on the stress levels, but also got things going.
The next big thing to tackle were the headlights. The wiring was a big mess due to the old relay dying and somewhere in the last 50 years it was not very professionally "fixed", killing the color coding. And the color coding for a 1969 appeared to be a bit different to other years anyway (I think).
I've worked a couple of late hours with a buddy of mine to re-wire everything with 3 relays and the power coming straight from the battery. But all was solved after finding out that number 87 on a relay is very different from 87a.
I was very happy with the result.
I can see!
This all was finished last Thursday the 30th of June.
All that was next was a test drive Friday evening.
That didn't go well, the engine wouldn't start. I tried to wait a bit to get the electronic choke to open a bit and even then it wouldn't idle on its own. Very frustrating. So I want to bed with a heavy heart.
The next day I remembered some words from a Dutch guy living in California owning a (or more) 510 explaining me that an electrical choke is pretty much crap with a cold engine. So I decided to give it another try with a different mindset. More throttle with a cold engine and trying to get the engine warm with driving around a bit. It worked!
Although I was hearing some nasty clunks while driving, but that was caused by me not torqueing down the 14" Work wheels
I've loaded up some essential tools and did a second very succesful test drive towards my appartment. Yeehaw!
ready for second test drive
Sunday morning the 3rd of July.
I was picking up my buddy in the morning, but did spot some cooling leakage on the floor. The water pump gasket died, but I already invested €70 in fuel, so I just went to the next gas station to buy some cooling fluid for the road. And as I have never put so much gasoline in the tank, it overflowed a bit (have to check where that leakage comes from) and the vapors where filling up in the cabin. Luckily the windows worked.
I could finally test the L18 a bit on the road and what a difference it is. It's so easy to participate properly with the common traffic in the city and on the highway. Driving 100km/h (60mph) and putting my foot on the pedal gave an extra pull which was a fantastic sensation. I do have to say that a 5-speed would be more comfortable, albeit that the 1,5 hour drive was mostly with a smile on my face.
The cooling fluid leak was under control as well.
Arriving at the event, my 510 brother Doraemon already reserved a place for me somewhere in the back of the field with two chairs and cold non-alcoholic beers, what a welcome!
finally the two cars together
It was already very busy upon arrival, but more and more classic Japanese cars where coming in. Eventually 776 cars came!
I have to say, after seeing the 15th Fairlady the 14th Sunny and the Silvia's, MR2's, Celica's, more and more I really loved seeing my car there. There are just not that many 510's in the Netherlands. The "other" 510 I know which is seen at other events was there as well and it was nice talking to the guy. It's a 1400 and he has it since 1991, didn't do anything on it and the car really looks like new. Too bad I didn't make a picture of it, but I'm sure I'll see him again.
Doraemon (Glenn), my buddy and I enjoyed the cars, the stories, and a good lunch at the restaurant next to the event. I was hyped talking to all the people who showed interest in our cars and also a bit surprised that some of them loved the rust on the car, making it "authentic". I guess it's a rusty hole fetish.
Near the end we just wanted a good picture together so here it is:
The drive back was a bit exciting, all of a sudden the engine was stuttering.
Apparently the bolts of the rocker cover were loosened on the way to the event. It was a quick fix at the nearest gas station.
So happy I managed to make it to (and back from) the event.
What a fantastic experience.
he made it
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Victory!
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Epic story and wraps up all the spirit of 510 ownership...that why we love them!
Congratulations on hitting your goal and getting it out - car looks sweet, top effort!
Congratulations on hitting your goal and getting it out - car looks sweet, top effort!
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Yes! Very happy
Thanks Pista. And it just inspires me to make the car better!
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Road trips in 510’s are what many of us have always loved to do.
Great to hear of the Dutch Datsun comrades, coming together at a show. There are many here on the site, no mater where they live, who’ve done just the same, many times.
And your drive allows you to get to know and enjoy your car that much better.
Thanks for the write up, many here will enjoy reading it.
I look forward to driving the my 510, the Bronze, this summer. And completing a performance driver training course at the local race track. It’ll be a highlight for sure. And then it’s my turn to share photos and a story.
Byron
Great to hear of the Dutch Datsun comrades, coming together at a show. There are many here on the site, no mater where they live, who’ve done just the same, many times.
And your drive allows you to get to know and enjoy your car that much better.
Thanks for the write up, many here will enjoy reading it.
I look forward to driving the my 510, the Bronze, this summer. And completing a performance driver training course at the local race track. It’ll be a highlight for sure. And then it’s my turn to share photos and a story.
Byron
Love people and use things,
because the opposite never works.
because the opposite never works.
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Looks like a great time. Nice to get the satisfaction of driving it after all the hard work.
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Looking forward to read about that story Byron. And yes, I'm hoping I can do more events like these, following the footsteps of a lot of people here.Byron510 wrote: ↑06 Jul 2022 06:04 Road trips in 510’s are what many of us have always loved to do.
Great to hear of the Dutch Datsun comrades, coming together at a show. There are many here on the site, no mater where they live, who’ve done just the same, many times.
And your drive allows you to get to know and enjoy your car that much better.
Thanks for the write up, many here will enjoy reading it.
I look forward to driving the my 510, the Bronze, this summer. And completing a performance driver training course at the local race track. It’ll be a highlight for sure. And then it’s my turn to share photos and a story.
Byron
It really was a great time. There were so many special vehicles coming to the event, some rarities as well. The guy who sold me the L18 brought a Prince which was sold originally in the Netherlands, what a thing: https://www.facebook.com/35320194540476 ... 64816/?d=n
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Last coupe of weeks I've been working on some small things making the driving experience a bit better.
First of all, I had to fix the water pump leak. It wasn't a gasket, the pump just died a little (not sure if it can be rebuilt). Luckily I had the pump of the L13 and after a clean up and installation it works like a charm.
I bought an alternator bracket at Futofab. I like the look of it and I wanted to buy something for the car which just was nice. A bit of jewelry if you like to see it that way.
I also installed a tachometer. Got some muscle aches due to working at weird angles behind the dash. It all works including the lights. It looks a bit ghetto, but I don't really care.
The steering was a bit sloppy, so after some research it turned out to be a simple fix. Love it.
And the shelf behind the seat (how do you call something like that? The literal translation from Dutch would be hat-shelf) needed to be done. This was a little experiment, it needs to be redone, but it works out for now.
The driving itself isn't the best, I think I need to clean the carb. And hopefully I can get some body work done in the next couple of weeks, we'll see. Steady as she goes...
First of all, I had to fix the water pump leak. It wasn't a gasket, the pump just died a little (not sure if it can be rebuilt). Luckily I had the pump of the L13 and after a clean up and installation it works like a charm.
I bought an alternator bracket at Futofab. I like the look of it and I wanted to buy something for the car which just was nice. A bit of jewelry if you like to see it that way.
I also installed a tachometer. Got some muscle aches due to working at weird angles behind the dash. It all works including the lights. It looks a bit ghetto, but I don't really care.
The steering was a bit sloppy, so after some research it turned out to be a simple fix. Love it.
And the shelf behind the seat (how do you call something like that? The literal translation from Dutch would be hat-shelf) needed to be done. This was a little experiment, it needs to be redone, but it works out for now.
The driving itself isn't the best, I think I need to clean the carb. And hopefully I can get some body work done in the next couple of weeks, we'll see. Steady as she goes...
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Everything you are doing looks good, How much did you adjust the steering box?
Here in the US it is typically called the rear shelf or parcel shelf. Probably in the days of everyone wearing hats in society, that terminology of hat shelf made a lot of sense.
I made a new one for my 73 and put padding and vinyl over it.
Here in the US it is typically called the rear shelf or parcel shelf. Probably in the days of everyone wearing hats in society, that terminology of hat shelf made a lot of sense.
I made a new one for my 73 and put padding and vinyl over it.
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
Not that much, I read that too much would give problems when you fully rotate the steering wheel.
Ah I haven't thought about padding, that's a good idea, thanks!
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Re: Werner's 1300 '69 4-door
As we keep on moving on.
The lightweight left front fender had to go. It appears that the rust holes were killing the aerodynamics. Or maybe it's when I show the car to non-car-people they only see the holes...
In anyway, I've sourced a notsobad fender from Madeira, a panel replacement from kfvintagejdm and a good welder not too far. So when he had time I brought the car.
It looks a lot better now even though I still need to straighten it out for paint. Not perfect but so much better. A couple of weeks ago, when I parked the car near my appartment, someone broken of the lens of a sidemarker. I was pretty pissed as it wasn't originally Datsun and I like the quirkyness about it. Knowing this was decenia old, I was looking for different lights to change them both together. However, I did do a call out on a local Facebook group on oldtimers. Someone actually had them laying around. 3 pieces! I got them for free, so really happy about that! One big thing for me was something this weekend. The L18 came with a Nikki carb. It idles fine now I figured out the automatic choke a bit. But when giving gas, it picks up, then almost dies and then picks up again. This all within one pedal push. I was frustrating me a long time, I couldn't figure out what happened. I've checked forums and all I found was that Nikki carbs suck. One guy managed to get it partially solved by changing gaskets, but nothing really great.
The welding guy pointed me towards a good direction saying that I have an early vacuum problem. After extensively googling I got on a right track. It wasn't the accelerator pump, as that worked fine. Vacuum problem sounded to me as a diaphragm problem, so I found the right youtube movie about double barrel carburetors and how they work. Apparently I had to look at this part: So this: I've bought a rebuild kit for an equaivalent Hitachi carb (DCH340) hoping it all would fit and took it all apart. The gaskets were spot on so that was good news.
When I found the rubber diaphragm it had indeed a little crack in it.
And we don't want cracked rubbers. I've glued it with rubber glue and treated the rest of the rubber with some rubber rejuvination stuff so it can function properly again for a long time.
After cleaning some bits and putting new gaskets in, the carb got installed again. I did a test drive and I solved the problem. It is such a huge difference. I can drive it like a normal car now. Aw yessss
The lightweight left front fender had to go. It appears that the rust holes were killing the aerodynamics. Or maybe it's when I show the car to non-car-people they only see the holes...
In anyway, I've sourced a notsobad fender from Madeira, a panel replacement from kfvintagejdm and a good welder not too far. So when he had time I brought the car.
It looks a lot better now even though I still need to straighten it out for paint. Not perfect but so much better. A couple of weeks ago, when I parked the car near my appartment, someone broken of the lens of a sidemarker. I was pretty pissed as it wasn't originally Datsun and I like the quirkyness about it. Knowing this was decenia old, I was looking for different lights to change them both together. However, I did do a call out on a local Facebook group on oldtimers. Someone actually had them laying around. 3 pieces! I got them for free, so really happy about that! One big thing for me was something this weekend. The L18 came with a Nikki carb. It idles fine now I figured out the automatic choke a bit. But when giving gas, it picks up, then almost dies and then picks up again. This all within one pedal push. I was frustrating me a long time, I couldn't figure out what happened. I've checked forums and all I found was that Nikki carbs suck. One guy managed to get it partially solved by changing gaskets, but nothing really great.
The welding guy pointed me towards a good direction saying that I have an early vacuum problem. After extensively googling I got on a right track. It wasn't the accelerator pump, as that worked fine. Vacuum problem sounded to me as a diaphragm problem, so I found the right youtube movie about double barrel carburetors and how they work. Apparently I had to look at this part: So this: I've bought a rebuild kit for an equaivalent Hitachi carb (DCH340) hoping it all would fit and took it all apart. The gaskets were spot on so that was good news.
When I found the rubber diaphragm it had indeed a little crack in it.
And we don't want cracked rubbers. I've glued it with rubber glue and treated the rest of the rubber with some rubber rejuvination stuff so it can function properly again for a long time.
After cleaning some bits and putting new gaskets in, the carb got installed again. I did a test drive and I solved the problem. It is such a huge difference. I can drive it like a normal car now. Aw yessss
Werner
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/
Even the pain is fun.
https://www.instagram.com/dutchydatsun510/