69 2 Door 13b Turbo
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Mockup of my rear brakes. These will end up being different since the eBrake caliper hits the rear shock.
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To power the brakes, I'm running a Tilton pedal box. Here's the mock up. It needs the mount raised a little, and it's not fitting square. A little more cutting and welding, and it will be solid.
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I decided to do some major surgery to fix the floors. I'm doing these, and the inner and outer rocker panels. I also opted to strengthen the frame rails. Here you see them extended to the rear, and I will brace them where the seats will be bolted in.
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Wow, that’s some major surgery going on there with the floor pan.
A good friend had a 2 door with an NA rotary, downdraft Webber and 5 spd. It was a fun car, and with the downdraft, it sounded crazy rowing through the gears. Good memories there.
Coming back to your build, are you sure that you want to have the brake pedal to the left of the column? As a fabricator and driver, this will place the center of your body not inline with the center of the car. It’s been done before, don’t get me wrong, but it does feel strange to drive this way. For good heal and toe work, your gas pedal would need to be pretty much under the columns center line.
I know pedal placement is difficult with the small amount of room available. I’ve built a few 510’s with aftermarket pedal boxes. I’ll try and find photos of my build on the bronze car that shows photos. But basically I have draped the two pedals over the column, then moved the pedal pads to the left to allow enough space for the gas pedal.
Byron
A good friend had a 2 door with an NA rotary, downdraft Webber and 5 spd. It was a fun car, and with the downdraft, it sounded crazy rowing through the gears. Good memories there.
Coming back to your build, are you sure that you want to have the brake pedal to the left of the column? As a fabricator and driver, this will place the center of your body not inline with the center of the car. It’s been done before, don’t get me wrong, but it does feel strange to drive this way. For good heal and toe work, your gas pedal would need to be pretty much under the columns center line.
I know pedal placement is difficult with the small amount of room available. I’ve built a few 510’s with aftermarket pedal boxes. I’ll try and find photos of my build on the bronze car that shows photos. But basically I have draped the two pedals over the column, then moved the pedal pads to the left to allow enough space for the gas pedal.
Byron
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Byron,
Thanks for the input! I debated both positions, and could only go off other peoples pictures with pedal boxes. So I would love to see the pics of yours. Since I have to move it up and flatten it, it needs to be welded again anyway, so I will take your advise and straddle the column, thanks! Please send pics.
Thanks for the input! I debated both positions, and could only go off other peoples pictures with pedal boxes. So I would love to see the pics of yours. Since I have to move it up and flatten it, it needs to be welded again anyway, so I will take your advise and straddle the column, thanks! Please send pics.
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Byron's own car - read the notes below the picture on arm length master type etc...
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_ ... G_2660.htm
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_ ... G_2661.htm
Byron did the cage & pedal assy fab work in my car...
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_ ... edium).htm
There are a bunch of pictures in here that show a bunch of details of the pedal install in my car. I'm 99% certain my pedal box has the longer arms, and 100% sure I have the 'standard' (longer) master cylinders. You can see that the mounting ends up quite a bit higher up under the 1969 dash with the increased radius of the longer pedal arms.
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_car/brw_1/
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_car/brw_2/
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_car/brw_3/
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_ ... G_2660.htm
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_ ... G_2661.htm
Byron did the cage & pedal assy fab work in my car...
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_ ... edium).htm
There are a bunch of pictures in here that show a bunch of details of the pedal install in my car. I'm 99% certain my pedal box has the longer arms, and 100% sure I have the 'standard' (longer) master cylinders. You can see that the mounting ends up quite a bit higher up under the 1969 dash with the increased radius of the longer pedal arms.
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_car/brw_1/
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_car/brw_2/
http://www.rfpcb.com/Pictures/510/robs_car/brw_3/
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Here is the thread on Byron's car. The brake stuff starts around here... https://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.p ... 0&start=45
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Thanks 510Rob, this is definitely one of the builds I looked at when mounting my pedals, but I will take Byrons advice and move them to the right. That cage is really nice, now often do you remove the side bars? I'm still not sure I want to fully cage the car, but who knows. I went this route so that it could be 100% reversible. Not sure why as much of the rest of the car is very modified. I have another race car, so not sure how much the 510 will actually see the track. And how hard it is to get in and out of that car has swayed my thoughts on a full cage, but it would be nice to have the extra protection.
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Door bars?
The car never got put back together. Uni got in the way, then life, then a few years in grad school, then more life, then dealing with an estate, then a pandemic kicked in while dealing with that estate, now a banking crisis, housing crisis, food inflation, etc...
The car never got put back together. Uni got in the way, then life, then a few years in grad school, then more life, then dealing with an estate, then a pandemic kicked in while dealing with that estate, now a banking crisis, housing crisis, food inflation, etc...
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Yeah I get that, it's all the same here. The door bars. The X bar across the door opening that bolts in.
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Spent the last few days replacing the drivers rocker. I added a 1.5" tube (not pictured) welded to the outer rocker for extra rigidity and double as an electrical conduit. I drilled holes and added grommets to run wires from the dash, down the drivers kick panel, through the rocker and out in the rear seat side well.