Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

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Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by dzaster » 26 Nov 2014 02:44

I'm wanting to stick with my H190 in my wagon because the work I've got into it already. I don't want to do a full axle swap and I do have a little cash to spend on making this work.

4x4parts.com has the H190 LSD, however it's for 29 spline axle.

I'm wondering if I can produce(have custom made) 29 spline axles the same length as the wagons, might this LSD work?

The first thing that comes to mind is what problems might I run into trying to insert the custom, 6mm larger diameter axles, into the wagon axle jousing.

Will the trucks axle bearing and seal fit the wagon axle housing?

Any other issues?

I'll admit I have yet to do my own physical measuring.I will try to this weekend, just that I'm not home at the moment.

Any help be appreciated.

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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by datzenmike » 26 Nov 2014 06:37

Over $700 for this? The truck axles are also 6 lug, bearings are likely the same as the goon. Truck axles are also likely longer so the splines would have to be cut further back and shortened.

Basically the truck spline needs to be 'attached' to your axles. Don't know if welding will handle this without being brittle.
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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by dzaster » 26 Nov 2014 07:52

The guy needs to have a look at the axles but I think if he understood me correct, then the job would be around $300 to $500.

Could the axle bearings really be the same when the axles are different diameters? I guess I'll find out today.

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Post by datzenmike » 26 Nov 2014 07:58

Don't know but the spline part necks down to the axle shaft. I doubt the 510 has a thinner axle than the truck.
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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by okayfine » 26 Nov 2014 08:11

And how much for the LSD? I looked at the store in your OP but a quick search only turned up R&Ps, not complete LSDs.

I'd price out the complete price of the revamp for the stock axle, then compare that to a shortened Ford 8.8 or something similar in the Chevy world. Muscle cars have way cheaper parts and way more availability for gearing and parts support down the line.

I read the first two sentences of your OP, trust me, but I don't see it making $ sense. If it's for the journey, then never mind.
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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by JordanTr » 26 Nov 2014 13:09

Dana 44
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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by greenthumb » 26 Nov 2014 13:20

Further to Jordan's comment on the Dana 44. Available on early Honda passports (and Isuzu Rodeos I believe) Bonus is LSD and beefy disc brakes. Axles do NOT neck down on these, and Dutchman Axles will respline them very reasonably. Available in the Passport with 4.10 and 4.30 ratio. Can't say for sure, but I'd imagine a host of ratios are available. They are 6 lug though, which poses some extra work if you need the 4 lug bolt pattern

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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by dzaster » 27 Nov 2014 04:00

It's part the journey, yes, but mostly that I've already done some work to current H190, like rear disk brakes, added flex-forms and built traction bars. Im not one to dump the clutch from a stand still every chance I get so not super concerned about the diff holding power. Turbo just feels nicer from a roll IMO.

And sorry about that link. I didn't mean to link the website. I just tried linking the LSD via my phone and it's not working. It's under "drive train/lsd/Frontier"

Oh, and it's about the work and time involved as I am currently working off island and may be for a while. My time is worth lot too and currently I don't have much of it to spare.

Also, the car is my DD when I'm home on weekends. I don't wanna drive anything else really. Heh.

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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by Rudydog » 14 Dec 2014 19:01

There is another possibility, but I have not tried it.

http://www.tractionconcepts.com/Nissan- ... ni9301.htm

Was well into my Mazda rearend when I found this site.

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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by dzaster » 14 Dec 2014 19:24

Pretty sure that's the unpopular Phantom Grip.

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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by jhm » 24 Aug 2015 14:15

Ditto what dzaster said....I've seen the PG unit repackaged and marketed under several different names. Something to stay away from.

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Re: Wagon H190 with Truck LSD & Axles

Post by 510rob » 24 Aug 2015 15:37

I think this is the part you intended to link.

http://www.4x4parts.com/i-18916351-fron ... ntial.html

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