4 link wagon...needs new motor

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 04 Sep 2007 20:29

I'm getting my ducks in a row to get my wagon 4 linked. I want to have most if not all of the parts before the cutting begins.
Right now my rear end (ford 8.8") is at the shop getting shortened to match the stock goon dimensions. I'm actually going to have the shop take a 1/4" off of each side to give me a lil more room for deeper offset wheels.
Heres where i need a lil help. Prolly going to use this kit from suicidedoors.com because of the quality, but do you guys know of anybody else I should consider?
http://suicidedoors.com/UniversalTriang ... inkKit.php
Now, what coilover setup should I run? I haven't done much research on shocks other than looking through a jeg's catalog. What should I be looking for when choosing a coilover setup?
Oh yeah, i guess i should tell you guys my setup and plans for teh car to get a good opinion, eh.

1972 wagon with an SR20det(future plans for bout 350hp)
The car is semi daily driver and I like to drive hard occasionally(dori dori)...hence the monster rear end. It already has 280z struts coilovered with 225lb eibachs. I really like to use the rear cargo area for what its intended, hauling shit and people around so no crazy cage going in. Would 250lb spring in the rear suffice? Simplicity is key.

I really want to do this right the first time round. Been reading up on HillbillyHectors setup and I'm using it as a reference. Seeing that he had to redo it himself. I dont have the skills(yet) or the money(yet) to do it twice or thrice.

So please fire away with comment and suggestions, I need them.

Post by **510rob** » 04 Sep 2007 22:04

Before you set up the 4-link angles, it would be a good idea to read Herb Adams "Chassis Engineering" - he talks a lot about basic ideas of 4-link systems set up for anti-squat, with a braking decouple system if you are so inclined...

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 04 Sep 2007 22:07

can I find this online or do I have to buy the book somewhere?
Braking decouple system....sounds interesting

sdterrible1 · Post by **sdterrible1** » 05 Sep 2007 08:51

I would build your own link system, it can be very easy. I have built many for my own trucks in the past. The only hard part is getting the pinion angle to stay the same through the full cycle of the travel; you are going to want your pivot points to be the same on the car as the axle. Like the same distance between the upper and lower mounts.

If you are looking for a shop to do it. A good friend of mine has his own shop(use to work there) that will build you a custom setup that won’t be all hacked up for a good price. The shop is in El Cajon and is called Chappell’s, they do custom exhaust and full frame building. If you would like there number just let me know!

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 27 Sep 2007 23:16

It has started. Here are some various pics of the rear end.

Gotta make it fit. Four link should be mocked by next week so we can see how much of the original floorpan can be saved. Were gonna get it tunneled it also. I really wanna keep the rear seat original 'looking' so this will be fun.

Post by **rnorrish** » 27 Sep 2007 23:49

which axle are you using (sure ain't the stock one!)?
i don't recognize it.

keep us posted!

ps: can you post some bigger photos? i like details...
pss: what camera/wide angle lens do you use (in some other shots)?

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 28 Sep 2007 00:28

The bigger pics are in this album towards the end.
http://www.imagestation.com/album/pictu ... 2089889112
And the camera with the wide angle is a canon rebel EOS XTI with a russian made zenitar lens. The other camera is a simple canon elph sd300.

Oh yeah, the rear axle is from a ford thunderbird turbo coupe. Its a 8.8" with trak lok LSD.

bryanf · Post by **bryanf** » 29 Sep 2007 11:19

This software will help you get the geometry right when designing your links and it's pretty inexpensive.
http://www.speed-wiz.com/calc/suspension/4ltr.htm
http://www.speed-wiz.com/calc/suspension/4lin.htm

http://www.speed-wiz.com

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 29 Sep 2007 13:05

Thanks a million Bryan! That'll come in very handy.

vgwagon · Post by **vgwagon** » 29 Sep 2007 16:19

Unless you are flaring the rear, you are going to have to have that diff housing narrowed what looks to be 6 inches.

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 29 Sep 2007 16:30

It's actually been narrowed 5 inches on each side. Took an extra 1/4 inch off each side to get some deeper wheels in there. You can see where its been cut in the pics.

Post by **510rob** » 29 Sep 2007 17:04

bryanf wrote:This software will help you get the geometry right when designing your links and it's pretty inexpensive.
http://www.carware.com/calc/suspension/pc4lin.htm
http://www.carware.com/calc/suspension/pc4ltr.htm

Bryan, is that your site? I see your name listed at the bottom of the page, so I am curious what your affiliation is to that site.

Copyright © 1997-2004 Bryan D. Feldman. All rights reserved.

Post by **thisismatt** » 29 Sep 2007 17:27

510rob wrote:
bryanf wrote:This software will help you get the geometry right when designing your links and it's pretty inexpensive.
http://www.carware.com/calc/suspension/pc4lin.htm
http://www.carware.com/calc/suspension/pc4ltr.htm
Bryan, is that your site? I see your name listed at the bottom of the page, so I am curious what your affiliation is to that site.

Copyright © 1997-2004 Bryan D. Feldman. All rights reserved.

bryanf · Post by **bryanf** » 29 Sep 2007 19:51

510rob wrote:Bryan, is that your site? I see your name listed at the bottom of the page, so I am curious what your affiliation is to that site.

It's not my site, but it's my software.

johnbureezu · Post by **johnbureezu** » 30 Sep 2007 12:10

Awww man, so no discount..lol

Sell me a boot leg Bryan....j/k

Prolly gonna purchase it for the guy doing my 4 link. Hes doing all the math in a notebook and it looks like hes losing hair doing it.

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