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Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 05 May 2017 10:16
by eastbaysolo_73
Sup fellas I did a search and couldn't come up with the answer I was looking for. I was trying to find out if anyone knew what the thread pitch size is to where you mount the front sway bar to the frame rails? Ive used just about every spare bolt I have and unfortunately I could not find the right size. Thank you in advance.

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 05 May 2017 11:02
by WxMan
It appears to be M8x1.25.

When I got my car it didn't have a sway bar mounted in the front and in checking for you I've just discovered that one of the mounting holes has a broken bolt with the head missing in it. Bugger. One more thing to add to the list before I can start putting it back together...

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 05 May 2017 21:29
by eastbaysolo_73
WxMan wrote:It appears to be M8x1.25.

When I got my car it didn't have a sway bar mounted in the front and in checking for you I've just discovered that one of the mounting holes has a broken bolt with the head missing in it. Bugger. One more thing to add to the list before I can start putting it back together...

Right on thanks man. Really appreciate your input.

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 30 May 2018 12:08
by eastbaysolo_73
So I'm reviving the this thread. I tried to install my Futofab SR/KA sway bar and it doesn't not fit. It makes contact with the cross member. Not happy about this at all. Does anyone know of another company that makes them for a SR swap? I don't want to modify it by welding anything on my frame rails to make it fit. I don't know how to weld lol..If I would have known that this was not a direct fitment part I would have not purchased it. I didn't see anything on there web site that stated that it requires modification to make it fit.. I know of a guy in SoCal who has them listed on Craigslist. They are a bit pricey at $300. I contacted him and he says it fits well and just about everyone he know who has used the Futofab bar has swapped it for his. That does sound great but he couldn't provide any photos of it mounted on any of his customer cars. So that instantly put a red flag on moving forward with his bar. Here's some photo of my current bar and what his looks like. Im hoping you suspension guru's can chime in on this.

Current Futofab sway bar
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Memo's sway bar
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And a link to his CL ad
https://losangeles.craigslist.org/sgv/p ... 19337.html

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 30 May 2018 16:33
by eastbaysolo_73
Doing a search online I found this company. Anyone familiar with them?

Here's a link to there site.
https://www.dapsupply.net/products/fron ... atsun-510/
Bars look almost the same as the one I posted earlier just powder coated.
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Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 30 May 2018 21:14
by eastbaysolo_73
Here's the MadDat version designed for those who are running Greddy/Trust oil pan. Which I'm running.
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Price is $336 AUS plus shipping. I sent them an e-mail to see what shipping cost would be.
I really like this one.

Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 31 May 2018 16:02
by icehouse
Finally got our test bar in! Felt nice around my "test track"


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Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 31 May 2018 18:13
by loungin112
I want one!!

Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 31 May 2018 20:37
by eastbaysolo_73
icehouse wrote:
31 May 2018 16:02
Finally got our test bar in! Felt nice around my "test track"


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Dude your killing me ! I just spoke to you today via FB about going rack and now your tossing this shit in my face... lol Nice bro that looks sick.. How did you like it?

Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 31 May 2018 21:43
by funwithmonkeys
icehouse wrote:
31 May 2018 16:02
Finally got our test bar in! Felt nice around my "test track"


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That looks really nice. Are there any modifications needed to install? It looks like it would easily clear the other bits on a low car.

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 01 Jun 2018 13:51
by Dave Patten
eastbaysolo_73 wrote:
30 May 2018 12:08
So I'm reviving the this thread. I tried to install my Futofab SR/KA sway bar and it doesn't not fit. It makes contact with the cross member. Not happy about this at all. Does anyone know of another company that makes them for a SR swap? I don't want to modify it by welding anything on my frame rails to make it fit. I don't know how to weld lol..If I would have known that this was not a direct fitment part I would have not purchased it. I didn't see anything on there web site that stated that it requires modification to make it fit.. I know of a guy in SoCal who has them listed on Craigslist. They are a bit pricey at $300. I contacted him and he says it fits well and just about everyone he know who has used the Futofab bar has swapped it for his. That does sound great but he couldn't provide any photos of it mounted on any of his customer cars. So that instantly put a red flag on moving forward with his bar. Here's some photo of my current bar and what his looks like. Im hoping you suspension guru's can chime in on this.

Current Futofab sway bar
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eastbaysolo_73,
Sorry to hear the sway bar didn't work for you.

I bolded / underlined a couple comments in your post that truly frustrate me with how people tend to communicate today. FutoFab tries extremely hard to be a good member of the Datsun community. We appreciate feedback and try to react positively to it, but the feedback with details needs to be sent directly to us to make sure we see it.

Your original comment we tried to address thru our website. On first contact in purchasing our sway bar online we state in the notes next to the buy now button "(May not fit all installations. It is suggested that the sway bar be purchased before any modifications are made.)"

There is also additional info about fitment on the site. This we didn't do so well in getting it to you. The text in the "Part" column is actually a hyperlink to more info about the part. This is not clearly identified. Due to your comment, we have taken the fitment warning note in that link and copied it to the "Buy Now" button page. Hopefully this will help future buyers.

The fitment of parts for engine swaps is always a crap-shoot when purchasing from different suppliers. Our front sump sway bar was designed in-house and test fit on my personal project car using a "flipped" front crossmember and a FWD SR16VE engine adapted to a dogleg 5 speed. We made the cuts for the flip as far outboard as possible, basically at the base of the engine mount pedestals. If the cuts are in board the bar will not fit and will hit the crossmember.

As with any modified car there are infinite ways to get the job done. Unless you buy a complete engine swap kit, there will inevitably be reworks and workarounds needed.

Here is where we cut the cross memebr to design our sway bar.
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If your crossmember looks like this, our sway bar definately isn't going to fit.
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Sorry for your troubles.

Here is a link on "flipping" the crossmember for a front sump engine swap.
http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?t=15686

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 01 Jun 2018 14:48
by eastbaysolo_73
Dave Patten wrote:
01 Jun 2018 13:51
eastbaysolo_73 wrote:
30 May 2018 12:08
So I'm reviving the this thread. I tried to install my Futofab SR/KA sway bar and it doesn't not fit. It makes contact with the cross member. Not happy about this at all. Does anyone know of another company that makes them for a SR swap? I don't want to modify it by welding anything on my frame rails to make it fit. I don't know how to weld lol..If I would have known that this was not a direct fitment part I would have not purchased it. I didn't see anything on there web site that stated that it requires modification to make it fit.. I know of a guy in SoCal who has them listed on Craigslist. They are a bit pricey at $300. I contacted him and he says it fits well and just about everyone he know who has used the Futofab bar has swapped it for his. That does sound great but he couldn't provide any photos of it mounted on any of his customer cars. So that instantly put a red flag on moving forward with his bar. Here's some photo of my current bar and what his looks like. Im hoping you suspension guru's can chime in on this.

Current Futofab sway bar
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eastbaysolo_73,
Sorry to hear the sway bar didn't work for you.

I bolded / underlined a couple comments in your post that truly frustrate me with how people tend to communicate today. FutoFab tries extremely hard to be a good member of the Datsun community. We appreciate feedback and try to react positively to it, but the feedback with details needs to be sent directly to us to make sure we see it.

Your original comment we tried to address thru our website. On first contact in purchasing our sway bar online we state in the notes next to the buy now button "(May not fit all installations. It is suggested that the sway bar be purchased before any modifications are made.)"

There is also additional info about fitment on the site. This we didn't do so well in getting it to you. The text in the "Part" column is actually a hyperlink to more info about the part. This is not clearly identified. Due to your comment, we have taken the fitment warning note in that link and copied it to the "Buy Now" button page. Hopefully this will help future buyers.

The fitment of parts for engine swaps is always a crap-shoot when purchasing from different suppliers. Our front sump sway bar was designed in-house and test fit on my personal project car using a "flipped" front crossmember and a FWD SR16VE engine adapted to a dogleg 5 speed. We made the cuts for the flip as far outboard as possible, basically at the base of the engine mount pedestals. If the cuts are in board the bar will not fit and will hit the crossmember.

As with any modified car there are infinite ways to get the job done. Unless you buy a complete engine swap kit, there will inevitably be reworks and workarounds needed.

Here is where we cut the cross memebr to design our sway bar.
Image

If your crossmember looks like this, our sway bar definately isn't going to fit.
Image

Sorry for your troubles.

Here is a link on "flipping" the crossmember for a front sump engine swap.
http://www.the510realm.com/viewtopic.php?t=15686
Dude I wasn't taking a jab at you our your business. I have bought many things from you guys and have had great success with them. Im not the best at wording things. But yes it didn't fit.. My cross member was flipped similar to yours with the exception I'm not running Datsun motor mounts. No hard feeling.

Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 02 Jun 2018 21:54
by icehouse
eastbaysolo_73 wrote:
31 May 2018 20:37
icehouse wrote:
31 May 2018 16:02
Finally got our test bar in! Felt nice around my "test track"


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Dude your killing me ! I just spoke to you today via FB about going rack and now your tossing this shit in my face... lol Nice bro that looks sick.. How did you like it?
Dude we just tested it today in our racecar. It balanced out the car perfectly, very natural and easy to drive.

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Re: Front sway bar options and issues

Posted: 02 Jun 2018 21:56
by icehouse
funwithmonkeys wrote:
31 May 2018 21:43
icehouse wrote:
31 May 2018 16:02
Finally got our test bar in! Felt nice around my "test track"


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That looks really nice. Are there any modifications needed to install? It looks like it would easily clear the other bits on a low car.

It clears everything with ease. The only tough part is the mounting blocks need to be welded on. No big deal for some people, some people may not like it.

Re: Front sway bar mount question

Posted: 02 Jun 2018 21:58
by icehouse
Dave Patten wrote:
01 Jun 2018 13:51
Our front sump sway bar was designed in-house and test fit on my personal project car using a "flipped" front crossmember and a FWD SR16VE engine adapted to a dogleg 5 speed.
I don't want to thread jack but did you get the bell adapter from Guy Selle?